Inside-out and Outside-in Golf Swing
You may already know that if your golf swing is outside-in, you will hit a weak slice to the right.
If you have outside-in swing, it means you are cutting across the ball. This will put slice spin on the ball.
On the other hand, if your clubhead approaches the ball from the inside the target line, your swing is either inside-in or inside-out.
Ideally, you want to swing inside-in for straighter shots.
How the Clubhead Path affects the Distance
Taylor Made once tested golfers to see how their clubheads approach the ball at impact. They found out that most of golfers’ clubheads were coming into impact about 11 degrees out to in.
This means most amateurs are cutting across the ball.
If your swing was perfectly inside to in, that’s neutral or 0 degree.
On the other hand, most of tour players’ swing path was neutral to 3 degrees inside coming into impact.
This means tour pros are swinging from inside-in or a bit from inside-out.
Golf Laboratories Inc. used the robot to see how the swing path affected distance and other aspects.
They programmed the robot to swing from inside-in (0 degree), inside-out (9 degrees in to out) and outside-in (9 degrees out to in).
Here are the results.
Not much difference in ball speed.
The more you swing from the inside, the higher the launch angle.
Outside-in path had the largest number of backspin per degree of launch angle.
Inside-out swing path produced more distance than other types of swing path such as inside-in or outside-in. But there were not so much difference between inside-out path and inside-in path.
In terms of distance, the shot with inside-out swing went 40 yards farther than the shot with outside-in swing.
So by swinging from outside, you could easily lose 40 yards on your drives .
To hit it far with your driver, you want to increase the launch angle and limit the number of backspin.
The swing from inside-out produced the shots with the highest launch angle and the least backspin.
However, the robot was programed to swing 9 degrees from inside to out. So you don’t want to swing extremely from inside. If you do, you will hit lots of push shots.
Hitting lots of Push Shots?
You might read golf tips on the magazine about hitting it from the inside and try them on the course. And you end up hitting lots of push shots and push-slice.
You may wonder why this happens.
If you are hitting slice and try to swing from inside-out, you will end up hitting push slice for sure.
The ball flight is not only determined by the swing path or the path of the clubhead through impact. The clubface angle also affects the ball flight.
To hit a draw, you want to close your clubface in relation with the clubhead path. For example, if your swing path is inside-out and the clubface is looking right of the target at impact, you will hit a push shot.
In this case, you want to have your clubface looking at the target to hit the shot that starts right of the target and come back to the target.
So if you try to fix your swing path, you need to pay attention to the things such as grip, posture, alignment and ball position that affect the clubface angle at impact as well.
Find out the difference in distance between inside-out swing and outside-in golf swing. Learn how to stop hitting push shots and push slices.
The Head Movement during the Golf Swing
Jack Nicklaus was famous for turning his chin to the right before he took the club back. He moved his chin (head) to the right so that he can turn freely during the backswing.
In his book, he said that the head should not move so much during the swing. So lots of teachers teach their students not to move their head.
But this is not correct.
Jack Nicklaus said that the movement of your head should be stable but the head doesn’t have to be still during the swin g.
When he turns his chin before the backswing, he turns his head as he moves his chin. So he was moving his head during the golf swing. He just did it before he took the club back .
On the backswing, your body turns to the right. That means your head will also turn to the right because your head is connected to your body.
Butch Harmon said the the worst thing you can do during the swing is to keep your head still.
If you feel like you have less turn during the backswing, let your head to move a little. Try to rotate your head to the right as you go back.
If you restrict the movement of your head, it will be very difficult to turn.
Stand up straight and try to turn to the right without moving your head.
This will be really difficult.
Now, allow your head to rotate as you turn to the right. You will find it much easier to turn fully to the right when you do that.
So allow your head to rotate to the right on your backswing. It will move slightly to the right as you shift your weight, but it won’t be a big slide to the right.
Tilting of Your Head
Also, tilt your head slightly to the right at address. Because your spine should be tilted to the right at address, your head should be tilted as well.
Your head and your spine are connected. So if the spine is tilted, it’s unnatural to keep your head straight at address.
Learn about the correct movement of your head during the golf swing. Find out how top players moved their head during the swing. Tips on head rotation and tilting of your head and much more.
Golf Swing Tips
The golf swing. No motion in sports is more complex – or more misunderstood.
Like scientists researching a cosmic mystery, players and teachers have spent lifetimes studying the golf swing’s every hinge, lever, rotation and arc. Yet after all these years, they’ve never reached a consensus on what constitutes the perfect swing.
And they probably never will. As the renowned sports psychologist Dr. Bob Rotella once wrote, golf is not a game of perfect.
Striving for perfection may be futile. But it sure is fun. Just ask any of the millions of people who are hooked on golf. They’ll tell you it’s the journey, the unending quest for improvement, the discovery of something new with every round or range session, that makes it so engrossing.
And it all goes back to the swing.
The golf swing is an intricate mélange of movements involving every part of the body. If one segment falls out of sync, the whole thing may go kaput. Then again, one strong swing element – a full shoulder turn, for example – can compensate for a number of weak bits. That’s why you can hit a great shot with a flawed swing.
Understanding the swing requires education of both the formal (reading tips, watching videos, taking lessons) and real-world (practicing, playing, trial-and-error) varieties. The swing involves physics, geometry and mathematics – and no small amount of art and magic as well. Comprehension is a never-ending process, a fact that drives some golfers to constantly seek knowledge, and simply drives others away from the game.
Yes, learning the golf swing’s many moving parts seems like a daunting task. But the swing really isn’t that baffling once you have a handle on the basic, proper concepts. That’s what you’ll find in this section.
Our menu of Golf Swing Tips, at left, covers the full gamut of topics. A brief sampling of subjects includes the proper turning of the shoulders and hips; the importance of balance and tempo; how and when your weight should shift during the swing; accelerating into your shots; the keys to swinging on plane; and proper chipping technique.
Golfers looking to improve specific parts of their games can click on titles like “5 Golf Tips on How to Hit Better Drives,” “Gain Distance with this Release Golf Drill” and “Lower Hands to Hit a Draw.” We offer tutorials on sometimes-confusing terms including “swing path,” “flat golf swing” and “compact golf swing.”
You’ll also find tips for curing some of golf’s most common problems – slicing, hooking, fat shots and the dreaded shanks. And because understanding the “why” is fundamental to fixing your swing on the range or course, our features always explain the various causes of these maladies.
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Trace the Plane Line for an On Plane Golf Swing
Online Golf Instruction By: Chuck Quinton, Master Instructor • FULL BIO •
Do you tend to get “stuck” in the downswing?
Do you hit blocks and quick hooks?
Do you want to get the ball to start on your intended target line and stay there?
Improper and overly aggressive use of the body is typically what you are going to need to overcome.
In this video, I give you a simple drill and very important fundamental for the arms that you can work on both at your club and at home to start hitting perfectly straight shots.
Not only will this drill teach you to hit the ball straighter, but also further and with much less effort!
While this video is targeted towards the golfer who tends to get stuck, it is also critical for golfers of all levels to learn how to get and keep the club on plane during the downswing.
Read below to learn how to “spin the shaft” and “trace the plane line” to start puring the ball!
There are two critical components to this drill.
First, you need something similar to our Tour Sticks (learn more by clicking here: Tour Sticks) to be stuck in the ground.
Alternatively, you can use a training aid similar to what I am using here called “The Path Pro.”
Regardless of what you are using, it needs to be setup parallel to the shaft at address and slightly to the inside, as seen in the image below.
This ensures that the club has room to swing without hitting the training aid.
Once setup, you want to begin making very slow motion swings performing the “spin the shaft” movement described in the video. Note that both hands are involved for this movement, even though I primarily focus on discussing the movement of the right arm in the video.
Using your Tour Stick or training aid as a guide, you want to trace down it while rotating the club shaft so that the club comes down on plane.
You will note that this movement also has the effect of squaring the club face and works hand in hand with the video “Squaring the Club Face Early.”
The benefit of performing this movement in the video correctly is twofold:
- It teaches you to bring the club down more on top of the ball rather than too far from the inside, and
- You learn to square the club face gradually throughout the downswing rather than trying to flip it at the last second.
This drill will have you hitting the ball with little to no curvature while starting directly on your target line for long flying, perfectly straight shots.
Checkpoints for Practice
- Better golfers often come from inside the plane line (higher handicap players tend to come over the top)
- Better players also tend to get stuck because they’re using the upper body too much
- The solution is to keep the body quiet and rotate the arms
- Use a mirror and practice keeping your body square and slowly tracing the plane line
- Also use arm rotation to keep your elbow from getting too far ahead of the club
Video Transcription: Trace the Plane Line
One of the problems that I work on with my better ball strikers is that they tend to get stuck, coming into impact.
I’ve got a plane line here, set up with this yellow guy. You can see the shaft plane that I want to come into at impact.
What happens is, a typical better golfer starts to come a little bit from the inside too much, so the ball is always going to want to start to the right of the target line, unless they shut the face down in relationship to the path, so we start getting balls that don’t start on our line, and have too much curvature to them.
My goal with every single Tour player that I work with and better ball striker, and everybody, period, is to get their path zeroed out.
What I mean by that is that I want that club coming down with a zero degree path, at impact. This would be in-to-out, a lot – 20 degrees in-to-out. Typical high handicappers come over the top. They’re coming in 20 degrees out-to-in.
I want that path to be zero. I use a flight scope, we have a launch monitor that we use to get specific, but you don’t need a launch monitor to get really, really close to getting your path zeroed out. The reason we do this is we want the ball to always start on line with a minimal amount of curvature. I want every single shot to start out exactly on my line and fly dead straight. That’s what RST is built around.
I hear that quite a bit when I hit balls. I had somebody say just the other day, “I love how square you come into the ball.”
While he couldn’t explain exactly what he was seeing, he could realize that my divots were really, really square, my club face was really square at impact, and my path was really square, so the ball flies very straight and true and I’m not manipulating loft and club face angle and all those things to try and get the ball to come back to my target line. I’m just wanting to hit it dead straight every time.
With doing that, one of the important things that you can do is what I call tracing the plane line. I have a training aid here, but you can have just a shaft on the ground that mimics close to where you are at address. It’ll be a little bit more upright, but close to where you are at address.
What you want to do is start understanding the relationship of rotation of your arms and your body, and how that affects plane line.
I’m going to do a couple of things here. One, I’m going to show what the better players tend to do a little bit too much of. What that looks like is as they start coming down, they use their body really aggressively, really early. The arms get trapped, and now I’m coming way from the inside.
They learn that they’ve got to try and flip their hands over really quick to bring the club back to square, and bring the ball back on the target line. That ball’s always going to be a quick hook or a block or a push draw. We don’t want that. We want it to be straight.
The other problem is that they tilt a little bit. If you look at face on, if I just go to the top and pull my left shoulder really hard, my arms can’t catch up again, and that tilts the plane so my plane now goes from being on plane, if I pull my left shoulder up it drops underneath the plane.
Higher handicappers, they all tend to want to do this. This is going to be a little bit different. That’s all typically due to body rotation.
This is more specifically geared towards teaching a better player how to stop getting stuck. If you’re a higher handicap player you’ve got to go back and work on the other fundamental pieces before you start working on this. You’re probably using your upper body too much, you’re not shifting your weight, and so on. Again, this is targeted towards a little bit better player.
What you’re going to find is that even if you do everything right, it’s really easy to start getting stuck coming down, where I’m going to start bashing into this guy. You can see that my club shaft is no longer on plane. It should be able to work right down this plane line, all the way into impact.
The key to doing that is rotation of your arms. What that looks like is, when I come down I’ve got to do – I’m going to exaggerate it here so it’s very visible, what I’m doing – my arms are going to be rotating this way. I’m going to exaggerate it a couple of times.
As I come down, this is stuck. I just move my body, my arms aren’t rotating. They’re just working with my body instead of my arms working on their own.
Now I’m going to exaggerate and I’m just going to rotate my arm this way. This type of movement. Now as I come in that, you can see, now brings the club – this is too much – out on top of the plane, rather than from underneath.
Now if we tone that down a little bit, as I come down you’re going to see it go right through my forearm, trace right on top of the plane line, but all I’m doing at this point is continuing to rotate my arm and my wrist to get the club to come out on plane.
In order for me to do that, my body has to basically take a nap. I can’t be spinning my body out. Rotation inherently shallows out the swing, so when you start rotating, that shallows you out and drops you to the inside. That’s a great way to hit a big hook.
You’re going to feel like your body stays quiet and you rotate your arm and your wrist to bring the club out on plane. The best way to see it is to just set a shaft on the ground or if you have something like this where you can set up to trace down it.
You can see now all I’m going to do is try and slowly trace down that plane line, all the way into impact, all the way down back to the ball.
You’re just going to do some drills coming down and working on keeping your body square and letting your arms work independently of your body so you can start getting the club to now come out right on top of the ball and square to the path, rather than from the inside.
Again, this comes down to learning to rotate or what I call “spin the shaft.” When you’re taking the club and twisting it, that rotates the club back out in front of you.
Another important key to this is you don’t want to get your elbow way in front of your body too much. That will also get the club stuck, so as you’re rotating it internally, you can see what this is going to do to my elbow.
That’s going to take my elbow from being way in front – you can get too far in front here, and get stuck coming underneath. If I rotate my arm this way, now my elbow is actually a little bit farther back behind my hip.
Again, for golfers who have never had lag in their life and they’re like this coming down, we work on trying to get their arms a little bit more in front because we’ve got to get that arm firing to catch back up with the body. They’re using the body too much.
But if you’re in a really good position you can get too far into a good position and get stuck the other way. Again, this rotation of your arm going this way brings the shaft back out in front and keeps your elbow from getting too far ahead of the club, because that’s also a stuck position, as I mentioned.
That looks like this. Now I have tons and tons of lag, but I need to get rid of it because my arm has moved too far. It’s got to be releasing at this point, and that’s all this motion. That motion needs to happen gradually, throughout the downswing.
The best way to feel it, again, is just start tracing the plane line, rotating it down all the way into impact until you start seeing in a mirror how the club comes down very, very square to the ball and allows you to release it on plane.
Spin that shaft coming down. Just start rotating your arm, rotating your hand, and watch how it brings the club out on top of the plane, and how your body has to kind of take a nap. It can’t be just spinning through here. The club’s got to start accelerating and releasing, and the body’s got to slow down so the club can do that.
Spin the shaft coming down, work on the rotation and pay attention to how it alters the plane coming down. If you tend to get a little bit stuck and hit little push draws, you’ll see how you’re able to get the ball to start out on line every time and fly dead square.
Proper Swing Plane – Use this simple drill and training aid to learn an on plane golf swing.
How to Stop Flipping Hands Through a Golf Swing
About 80 to 90 percent of amateur golfers “flip” their hands attempting to get the club back to square at impact, says Jack Nicklaus and golf teacher Jim Flick. Flips can be a cupped left wrist at impact that causes a weak, scooped shot or a screaming hook when the right hand flips the club in an over-rotation. Fixing the flip in your swing will help you hit the ball more consistently and with more power.
Eliminate the tension. A good golf swing is about proper setup and taking a backswing and downswing that gets you back at that proper setup when hitting the ball. Flick says the proper feel at impact is when the left forearm is ahead of the ball and the left wrist is slightly bowed, not cupped. He recommends easing the tension in your arms and swinging the club freely to help get your hands and arms into this proper position.
At impact, point your left hand at the target. Hank Haney, who coached Tiger Woods for six years, says: “Ideally, the back of the left hand should be facing your target at impact; that is your key.” A left hand facing left of target at impact will send the ball left on a hook or pull, and the left hand pointing right at impact will mean a push or slice.
Shift your weight properly through the swing. Tiger Woods’ previous instructor, Butch Harmon, says that to practice a proper weight transfer, hit shots off a slight downhill slope. This will force the weight to transfer and promote the feel of hitting down and through the ball, which will keep you from flipping your hands to compensate for poor weight transfer.
About 80 to 90 percent of amateur golfers "flip" their hands attempting to get the club back to square at impact, says Jack Nicklaus and golf teacher Jim Flick. Flips can be a cupped left wrist at impact that causes a weak, scooped shot or a screaming hook when the right hand flips the club in an over-rotation.